So I’ve been lucid dreaming for a couple of months now and am starting to see some progress. Dream induced lucid dreams are starting to become more common. (Had them the last two nights and a week ago I had two in one night) The only thing I’m struggling with a little is wake induced lucid dreams. When I first started, I had one almost effortlessly. There was no transition either, I went from lying in bed, to being in a dream. The last two times I’ve tried it have been a little unpleasant. In the first, I felt a kind of vibrating as R.E.M. atonia (or sleep paralysis) set in. Then there was this weird sensation, I can’t really describe it. It was almost like falling, I knew that letting go would send me into a dream somehow. I relaxed into it and something strange happened. Everything was white. There was geometric shapes and symbols floating around. It felt like I was looking at a massive screen. That was the fun part. Unfortunately I also had something that sounded like a distorted radio coming from somewhere close to my ears. I could hear loads of voices talking at once. It was pretty unsettling. I couldn’t move yet, and I didn’t seem to have a body. Perhaps this was hypnagogia? I’ve never experienced any hypnagogic visions or anything before. It seemed a bit intense for that though, I’ve never heard of it being like that. I closed my eyes, hoping I would be in a dream when I opened them again. When I opened them, I was awake (this always wakes me in dreams too)
The second attempt a few days later was similar. Only this time there were no intense visuals, just a loud buzzing. I held out for as long as I could, but there was no sign of a dream and it was uncomfortable so I woke myself up. I often get weird sensations when entering R.E.M. atonia. It’s often a feeling like a body part is in a different location that it really is. Usually it feels like my foot or arm is pressing against something. It’s uncomfortable so I go to move it, and realise it was just an illusion.
Anyone else had similar experiences? I don’t have any fearful experiences while in sleep paralysis like some, it’s just a bit unpleasant.
Basically I tried doing FILD and woke up 3 hours after going to sleep. I then started doing the piano key thing for 30 seconds and i heard a weird noise in my ears and then I turned my head because I was positive I was lucid dreaming and I felt I was being dragged out of my body but then I woke up not even a second after , thing is that I was in room during this dream that lasted half a second if it even was one.
I have been attempting FILD for 3 days and I find the finger movements to be a good anchor for keeping the mind aware during the transition into sleep. I did experience some extreme hypnogogia like a loud ringing noise, and intense visualizations that became real during finger movments. This is a common feeling for me during WILDs and DEILDs. So out of the 3 attempts I went lucid once, failed the second attempt because I couldnt keep my adrenaline from rushing due to all the extreme hallucinations which caused me to wake up, and the third one I just fell asleep.
Most users report doing the finger method for 10-30 seconds and doing a reality check. And achieve a false awakening. They dont feel any transition at all. Which I find very strange.
Its hard for me to explain my train of thought around why FILD works the way it does for people, so Im just going to ask a bunch of questions.
Do you feel the transition during FILD attempts or just a false awakening?
Why stop finger movements after 30 seconds?
Why attempt a reality check after 30 seconds and not a longer period of time?
The reason I ask these questions is because FILD is the only WILD technique that Ive read that has a time limit. For example alot of people use visualization to WILD. This does not involve a time and just involves visualizing something until it becomes real and you might experience some hypnagogia in the process. To me I would think alot of people fail this technique because of 10-30 seconds followed by a reality check step.
I've been using my phone with a symbol that reminds me to do a reality check and I have writing on my hand so that when I look at it, I am reminded to do a reality check. But unfortunately I'm not having the lucid dreams that often. They are few and far between. So tonight I'm going to focus on hands. Before going to bed, I'm going to tell myself.. when I see my hand, I will realize I'm dreaming. I'm going to do this before I got to bed and also again at 4am in the morning. Any other suggestions that would work well?
Hi guys! I’m new to the whole lucid dreaming topic. It really amazes me and I’ll try my best to learn how to do it! But I wondered if it is possible (if you’re advanced) to use a LD to study school/uni stuff (of course if you already kinda know something about the topic you’re studying)? Has anybody ever tried it? Let me know!
This would be something like a smartwatch that you'd always have on while in dreams. You could add any other tools to the watch you'd want, just expect them to be there. I think this would make it easier to make things happen through expectation, because pressing a button for something to happen is more convincingly going to do something rather than just saying it or wanting it to happen while dreaming. Maybe this is just me, and maybe it wouldn't even work (I haven't had the chance to actually try it) but I wanted to share this idea in case it'd be helpful for anyone struggling to improve their dream control.
Universal dream tools: * Remove control for the dream (doesn't remove lucidity, just temporary control of non-self stuff) * Wake up * Clarify/stabilize dream * Make subconscious behave (like a refresh button for my subconscious if its going against my will)
World tools * time controls (rewind, stop, forward) * gravity on/off * change scene (select, say or imagine new scene, spin around) * create object * delete object * edit object (color, size, position, rotation) * change weather (clear, rain, clouds, fog, hot, cold) * day/night
Character tools * Start character dialogue (can set topic; sexual, comedic, philosophical etc) *Stop character dialogue * Create character(s) (select, say names or imagine them, they materialize in front of you) * Delete character(s) (say names or point at) * Edit character (say name or point at, can change anything about character; clothes, mood, body proportions, hair, etc) * Robot mode (able to be commanded by voice) * Add body part * Delete body part
Self controls * Change proportions (height, muscle mass, etc) * Create body part (extra arms, legs, wings, etc) * Delete body part (flex to remove?) * Fly * Teleport * High jump * Change size * Change speed * Invisibility
I am inside of an building & I am guided to walk in an room. I do & I see myself. The other version of me stops & gets up from a desk. This version of me is more muscular & has a chisled physique.
"Hey (my name), it's about time we have a talk." [other me]
"Are you my subconscious?"
"Yes, I know all of your deepest darkest secrets, beliefs, & your fears." [other me]
"About damn time, I been trying to contact you for weeks but you kept ignoring my request. I need to ask you a few things."
"Go ahead, I know everything about you." [other me]
"Alright, tell me why I feel depressed & what is my dream job?"
"Your light has gone out. You hate what you see in the mirror. You gained your weight back & you feel like shit. Your dream job is to be a social media marketer. All that wrestling & rap shit was to just become famous because you crave validation & acceptance you didn't get when you were a child. You don't want to start one though because you know you're going to have to change. Your trust issues makes it hard to open up and connect doesn't it? You're addicted to porn because you know you can't connect with a real woman or make real friends." [Other Me]
"Uhh, yeah." I actually started crying (has anyone else experienced this in a dream?)
"Not only that, you're insecure & don't believe in yourself like you did when you were younger. You started to make the wrong decisions & blaming it on other people. Tell (my therapist) the truth." [other me]
"I have been?"
"No you haven't, you didn't told her how you can't stand yourself in the mirror or that you fear everyday because of the thoughts in your head. You believe that theyres no hope for you. You dug yourself in a hole & you know its going to be difficult to be out of it." [other me]
"What am I supposed to do then?"
"MAKE A DECISION TO ACTUALLY FUCKING CHANGE OR YOU WILL DIE A FAILURE." [Other me yells this in my face]
The dream world starts to collapse & I wake up. Has anyone else had a dream like this? I woke up in tears & I just signed up for an gym membership this morning to increase my self-confidence.
There was a point where I was lucid dreaming every night. I learned a lot. But I experienced something I can't even find on the internet.
There were 3 times when I would be very close to falling asleep. Some stimulus wakes me up slightly. At that point I am "on the fence" and I could decide to wake up or let myself fall asleep. I find it strange that I could choose and that I was aware that I could choose. I choose to fall asleep and the strangest sensation would happen. Basically I would loose feeling, starting with my toes and and fingers, and going up to my brain. A tingly wave moving up my body. Like my all my senses were being sucked into my brain, hard to accurately describe. I know the body cuts off connection to muscles when sleeping, so I assume I am actually experiencing this.
Next, I am literally dropped into a dream. Like I would fall into a black, blank world until my mind filled the void to create a typical dream. This seemingly happens instantaneously. To recap: from hearing a noise in my bedroom, to choosing to fall asleep, to losing sensation, to in a dream, felt like ~5 seconds and I was aware of it all. What's so interesting is that I know it takes several hours to start dreaming. But because I have no stimuli, I have no perception of time. It's like I'm awake but I'm not because there's nothing for me to experience.
I'm curious if anyone else has experienced this, or if it is in fact a researched topic (try typing that into google lol).