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Unpopular Opinion by Unpops Staff - 1w ago

On this episode of Pretty Scary, Adam, Caitlin, and Kari discuss the mystery surrounding an author who may or may not have buried millions of dollars worth of treasure somewhere in the United States.

Forrest Fenn was a pilot for the United States Air Force and was awarded the Silver Star, the military’s third-highest personal decoration for valor in combat, for his service in the Vietnam War. After retiring from the Air Force, he moved to New Mexico, where he and his wife Peggy operated Fenn Galleries in Santa Fe.

The gallery, which specialized in antiques and high-end art, attracted celebrity customers and politicians including Steven Spielberg and Gerald Ford. Fenn also accumulated an impressive personal collection of historical artifacts such as Sitting Bull’s original peace pie and a mummified falcon from King Tut’s tomb. He even purchased his own Indian ruin, San Lazaro Pueblo, and has been criticized for excavating the site, which had been home to the Tano tribe and abandoned over 300 years ago.

In 1988, Fenn was diagnosed with terminal kidney cancer. He initially planned to hide over a million dollars worth of gold nuggets, gemstones and antiques and end his life next to the treasure. However, he survived the cancer, sold his gallery, and waited until 2010 to hide the treasure somewhere in the Rocky Mountains, in the roughly 1,000 miles between Santa Fe and the Canadian border. His motivations for hiding the treasure at that time were to encourage families to enjoy the outdoors as well as give people hope during the Great Recession.

According the Fenn, the treasure chest is a 10 by 10 inch bronze 12th-century Roman box and weighs 40 pounds fully loaded. Fenn made two trips, first to hide the chest, and the second to carry the contents. The contents reportedly include gold coins, pre-Columbian Incan and Mayan animal figures, a 17th-century Spanish gold-and-emerald ring, rubies, diamonds and sapphires and two hand-carved Chinese jade masks.

Fenn’s longtime friend, best-selling author Doug Preston, confirmed that he has seen the chest in Fenn’s house, and while there is no proof that Fenn has hid it, the chest is no longer in the house. A New Mexico archaeologist also confirmed to NPR that he has seen the treasure and believes Fenn is telling the truth.

In October 2010, Fenn released his his self-published autobiography The Thrill of the Chase. In it, he included a map and a poem with 9 clues leading to the treasure.

Although the book was only sold in a local bookstore and had an initial print run of about 1,000 copies, word quickly spread and eventually mainstream media began to take notice.

Fenn estimates that tens of thousands of people have searched for the treasure over the past 8 years, and although some people have claimed to find it, no one has been able to provide any evidence supporting their claims. Fenn has also confirmed that searchers have been within 200 feet of the treasure.

Dal Neitzel, a Washington State TV station manager, has been searching for the treasure since 2013. He also runs one of the most popular blogs about the treasure. Neitzel believes no one has been able to find the treasure so far because the poem is so vague.

Neitzel is quoted as saying “We have no certain knowledge what the nine clues in the poem are. Which line or word is a clue and which is not? We don’t even know for certain what the lines mean. They are interpreted by each individual differently, and we won’t know who is correct until someone finds the chest.”

The treasure hunt has taken on a life of its own. Hundreds of the most devoted hunters gather in Santa Fe each June for a gathering called Fennboree. It has also led to some scary consequences – a 47-year-old man was arrested after he became convinced that the treasure was Fenn’s granddaughter, and Fenn had to file a restraining order against another obsessed treasure hunter who showed up at his home. However, many others have expressed gratefulness to Fenn for bringing their families together, giving their lives purpose and introducing them to some of the most beautiful scenery they had ever seen.

At least four people have died while searching for Fenn’s treasure:

1. Randy Bilyeu, a 54-year-old retired mechanic, moved from Florida to Colorado to hunt for the treasure full time. On January 5, 2016, he sent out for the Rocky Mountains in northern New Mexico. His wife reported him missing a few days later, and his body was found about six months later along the Rio Grande river.

2. In June 2017, Jeff Murphy, 53 years old, fell about 500 feet to his death inside Yellowstone National Park. Yellowstone officials initially did not release the details of the investigation into his death, but KULR-TV, a television station based out of Billings, Montana, filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the report, which revealed that Murphy had been searching for Fenn’s treasure.

3. Paris Wallace, a 52-year-old pastor from Grand Junction, Colorado, told family members he was searching for a buried treasure. When he failed to show up for a planned family meeting on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, they reported him missing. His car was found near the Taos Junction Bridge in New Mexico, and his body was found 5 to 7 miles away.

4. Eric Ashby had moved to Colorado in 2016 to look for the treasure. His body was found in the Arkansas River on July 28, 2017 – his raft had overturned and had had drowned. Ashby was 31 years old.

Over the years, Fenn has gradually released more clues. After Ashby’s death, Fenn wrote that the treasure “is not under water, nor is it near the Rio Grande River. It is not necessary to move large rocks or climb up or down a steep precipice…Please remember that I was 80 when I made two trips from my vehicle to where I hid the treasure.” He has also since revealed that the treasure is not in a mine or other man-made structure, that is is between 5,000 feet and 10,200 feet above sea level, that it is not in Canada, Utah or Idaho, and not at the top of any mountain, although it may be close to the top of one. He has also stated that the treasure is not in Canada, Utah or Idaho, leaving Montana, New Mexico, Colorado and Wyoming as the possible states where the treasure is located. Fenn has also reportedly admitted that the most important clue is the line in the poem “Finding where warm waters halt,” and that this line does not refer to a dam.

Fenn also told Business Insider, “Read the clues in my poem over and over and study maps of the Rocky Mountains. Try to marry the two. The treasure is out there waiting for the person who can make all the lines cross in the right spot.”

Although Fenn has been accused of making up the treasure to sell more books, he allows a local bookstore to keep all proceeds. The bookstore in turn donates part of the proceeds to charity.

New Mexico State Police have asked Fenn to call off the treasure hunt. Police Chief Pete Kassetas said, “When you have 2 million dollars or so, as it it’s rumored to be, at stake, people make poor decisions.” Fenn has donated to search operations for those who have died hunting for the treasure, but has resisted calling off the hunt, saying in a statement, “I am not sure what that would accomplish. An average of 9 people lose their lives each year at the Grand Canyon, but there is no call to close it. I have said that my treasure is not hidden in a dangerous place, so why are people searching in dangerous places?”

Featured Photo: Luis Sanchez Saturno, Santa Fe New Mexican

Sources:

  1. Wikipedia: Fenn Treasure
  2. NPR: Seeking Adventure And Gold? Crack This Poem And Head Outdoors
  3. The National: Inside the Epic Search for Forrest Fenn’s Gold
  4. CNBC: An 87-year-old millionaire buried treasure in the Rockies—and he’s offered one main clue
  5. The New York Times: On the Hunt, ‘Where Warm Waters Halt,’ for a $2 Million Treasure
  6. Newsweek: FORREST FENN WANTS YOU TO FIND HIS TREASURE—AND HIS BONES.
  7. Earth Magazine: On the trail of treasure in the Rocky Mountains
  8. Forbes: $3 Million Dollar Treasure Remains a Mystery
  9. BBC: Missing treasure hunter’s remains found in New Mexico
  10. ABC News: Police chief pleads with author who hid treasure to ‘call off the hunt’ after 2 die searching for riches

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Things To Look Forward To In 2018 (w/Dave Waite and Danger Van Gorder) - SoundCloud
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So 2017 was a bummer, which is a bummer because 2016 was also a bummer. But hey! Maybe 2018 will be better! If nothing else, we do have some good things to look forward to. Adam welcomes Danger Van Gorder and Dave Waite to discuss! Things like…

The Winter Olympics

Despite the fact that the Olympics bring death and destruction with them wherever they go, and the fact that this year’s Winter Olympics will be located in PyeongChang which is a handy dandy stone’s throw from North Korea (the perfect location during these tense political times, of course), Adam is way too excited for them for one reason: women’s figure skating, which is not only his favorite Olympic sport but the one he will assure you is the actual best.

Black Mirror Season Four

This show speaks for itself. No word yet on when they’ll release it, but they’ve already put up a ton of trailers.

The Purge: Island

Every fan of Unpops knows that The Purge is Adam’s favorite franchise, and a new installment comes out this year, and it’s a prequel that explains the events leading up to the first movie!

Ginger Emojis

Finally! Your electronic devices will recognize redheads as real people!

Comeuppance (or: the Ever-Fleeting Sinews of Actual Justice)

Who the hell knows who’s next on the old social chopping block, and the lines aren’t particularly distinct right now, but we managed to get rid of a few truly horrific people in major positions of power this year due solely to their sins finally coming under scrutiny. Trump has created a goddamn tornado of crime around himself and built a brand out of shock and chaos so he’s likely insulated against a lot of his misdeeds, but the same apparently can’t be said for other titans. Here’s to hoping for more high-profile shitheads being ousted and a new culture of transparency instituted. Har har.

Robert Mueller


The boa constrictor of Washington DC is basically being handed evidence and self-incrimination on a daily basis. Trump admitted to obstruction of justice over the last weekend. It’s not going to undo the damage that Trump and the Republicans are doing, but it may yet set us up for a gigantic swing in the opposite direction.

…and more! Listen to the episode! I refuse to spoil it all for you!

Sources

Olympics: https://www.olympic.org/pyeongchang-2018

Black Mirror: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5N_Tq1EtRQ

The Purge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mYVi7WHyiU

The Independent: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/unicode-redheads-gingers-emoji-2018-new-hair-colour-a8035006.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/republicans-fear-bloodbath-midterm-elections-donald-trump-america-politics-latest-a8000396.html

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Unpopular Opinion by Samantha Clarke - 1M ago

The European Union…it’s like the America of Europe! But does the world need it anymore? Britain certainly doesn’t think so, and Russia hopes a lot more countries agree with them in the near future. But are they right? Adam and Quincy talk about exactly that on this episode! Listen now!

Do We Still Need The EU? - SoundCloud
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Aaaaaaand as we keep plugging, subscribe and rate us on iTunes!

Synopsis

The 2010s have seen the resurgence of some ugly ideology. In 2016, Britain surprised much of the Western world by voting to remove itself from the European Union, otherwise known as “Brexit.” In 2017, far-right candidates Geert Wilders and Marine Le Pen lost their elections for office, but came incredibly close…and both had intentions of removing their respective nations from the European Union, and held the Brussels bureaucracy with contempt. Arguments have been made that the supranational nature of the European Union has eroded the sense of national identity and culture, and has also made some nations, such as Germany and France, piggy banks for other, less fortunate ones, such as Spain and Greece. These factors beg the question: is there any point to the EU? Listen to the episode to find out what Adam and Quincy think!

Sources

Foreign Policy: http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/06/30/brexit-is-a-russian-victory/

http://www.closer2oxford.ro/uploads/2012/06/12/The_Rise_of_Illiberal_Democracy.gf1ruw.pdf

New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/world/europe/russia-brexit-arron-banks.html

The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/07/liam-fox-azerbaijan-relationship-book-publishing

Freedom House: https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/2017/hungary

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Hello! If you’re here, it probably means you’re looking for source links from this week’s episode of Good Luck, America. We have that here for you! If you want to listen to the episode again while you read, we certainly aren’t going to stop you.

As you likely recall, this week’s topic was the historic #MeToo strike that happened at McDonald’s locations in 10 cities across the United States. It’s a hugely important situation that isn’t getting anything close to the amount of attention it deserves. Here! Read about it!

McDonald’s Workers Stage #MeToo Strike Over Sexual Harassment (via Associated Press)

A good rundown of the moments that led up to last Tuesday’s walkout. Written by the Associated Press. A name you can trust, depending on which conspiracy theories and/or political beliefs you hold dear.

Restaurant Workers Are More Likely To Face Sexual Harassment Than Most (via Vox)

This article from Vox includes some further details about the McDonald’s walkout. It also goes into detail about how pervasive sexual harassment is in the fast food industry in general and some similar McDonald’s related incidents from the past.

The Victims Speak Out (via FightFor15)

This video, released by the group that organized the strikes, FightFor15, definitely deserves a few more views.

Sexual Harassment RAMPANT at Fast Food Restaurants - YouTube

How about you be one of those views right damn now?

To hear us talk about American news and politics stories that you probably aren’t hearing anywhere else, subscribe to Good Luck, America on iTunes. Maybe give us a good rating and review while you’re there. We’d surely appreciate it.

The post An Historic #MeToo Moment (At McDonald’s) – Good Luck, America – Ep. 19 Show Notes appeared first on Unpopular Opinion.

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Hey, word nerd! I imagine you’re here looking for links to the articles we discussed on this week’s episode of Good Luck, America. If so, you’ve come to the right damn place. Hell, you can even listen to the episode again while you do your reading if that’s your fancy. Do it right here:

And now here come those links:

What Is The Denaturalization Task Force? (Via Vox)

Well, it’s the topic of this episode, for starters. It’s also just one of the ways the Trump administration has set their sights on making life miserable for legal immigrants.

When Punishing Child Abusers Becomes A Slippery Slope (Via Justice.Gov)

The official DoJ write-up about five unrelated child abusers the government wants to strip of their citizenship. Sure, it’s nothing you’re gonna take to the streets and protest over, and that’s understandable. That said, a precedent is a precedent, and this case is the one that cleared the way for…

A 63-Year-Old Grandmother Now Facing Denaturalization (Via Miami Herald)

For what it’s worth, denaturalization is the kind of thing we used to reserve for literal Nazis and other assorted war criminals who lied their way into the country. In a couple short years, we’ve gone from that to targeting a grandmother with a rare kidney disease who (probably unknowingly) got wrapped up in a fraud scheme a decade ago. Hooray for law and order?

But Wait, There’s More! (Via The Week)

Denaturalization isn’t the only way the Trump administration is targeting legal immigrants. They’re also using a loose interpretation of an ancient law to prevent anyone who’s ever needed government assistance of any sort from obtaining citizenship. Nothing Nazi-like about that, my fellow able-bodied Americans!

Hunger Strikes In Immigration Detention Centers (Via The Cut)

It’s back to illegal immigration to close out the show, when we discuss an outbreak of hunger strikes at immigration detention facilities. Bad times!

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The post Good Luck, America – Ep. #13 – “The Denaturalization Task Force” – Show Notes appeared first on Unpopular Opinion.

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Oh, you like to read? Well how novel of you! Ha! Get it? Novels are a thing you read. Anyway, if you’ve found this post it probably means you’re looking for links to the articles we discussed on this week’s episode of Unpopular Opinion.

Sure, we have those. But wouldn’t you also like to listen to the episode again while you read? Sure you would! Do that right here!

And now here come those links, brainiac.

Profiles Of QAnon (Via The Daily Beast and The New York Times)

One thing worth noting right off the bat…not a lot of links for this episode. That said, the links we do have will potentially occupy the entirety of your day, so take solace in that I reckon.

These first two stories are really good explainer articles for anyone looking for a basic understanding of what in the holy hell QAnon even is. Granted, you’ll still come away at least a little confused, but since when have you NOT come away from a new story involving Trump with that feeling?

The Authoritarians (Via TheAuthoritarians.org)

We go into a whole lot of detail about a book called The Authoritarians on this episode. Fittingly enough, this is the website where you can check out that book for free. Or if audio books are more your speed, go to audibletrial.com/unpopsnetwork and sign up for a free trial. The book is available there as well.

See? I told you there weren’t a lot of links for this episode. Use the time you saved today to do something nice for yourself.

The post Unpopular Opinion Ep. #255 – Who Is QAnon? – Show Notes appeared first on Unpopular Opinion.

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