I am confused as to why the washington state bar would care about Rosebud and John Dehlin?!? Why does her allegation of perjury have anything to do with RFM I do agree with Mr. Patterson, this is a clear version of Rosebud’s side of the situation and I do feel awful for her, if what she has written is even close to accurate. No means no, hard stop. The bits and pieces she has shared about her marriage during that time positioned her to be taken advantage of. After all of that, I do remember a tone with her text messages that left the impression that she thought she had more influence over Jo ..read more

And you have criticized me repeatedly for my obsession with John Dehlin. So perhaps we've both learned something about each other. You were not the only person I had in mind, jp. Statistics: Posted by Kishkumen — Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:57 pm ..read more

You continue to be ignorant of the role that power dynamics play in sexual harassment cases . . . . No, you continue to absolutize them and rob people in subordinate positions of the totality of their will, most especially women. You are a bizarre kind of feminist. I'm not absolutizing. Open Stories Foundation is. John is. I'm not the one who wrote the Open Stories Foundation's sexual harassment policy and then paraded it all over the internet in a back-slapping kind of way. I'm not the one who wrote it to explicitly call out how volunteers are and are not to be treated and that inapprop ..read more

You continue to be ignorant of the role that power dynamics play in sexual harassment cases . . . . No, you continue to absolutize them and rob people in subordinate positions of the totality of their will, most especially women. You are a bizarre kind of feminist. Statistics: Posted by Kishkumen — Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:49 pm ..read more

Do say more. I recalled that when you first came here to support Rosebud, you liked to point out the board's preoccupation with Peterson. And you have criticized me repeatedly for my obsession with John Dehlin. So perhaps we've both learned something about each other. Statistics: Posted by jpatterson — Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:48 pm ..read more

Rosebud was a high-level volunteer . . . So, as a volunteer, she voluntarily engaged in all of this. Thanks, jp. Then she voluntarily chose to take the job. Check. Statistics: Posted by Kishkumen — Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:41 pm ..read more

Do say more. I recalled that when you first came here to support Rosebud, you liked to point out the board's preoccupation with Peterson. Statistics: Posted by Kishkumen — Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:39 pm ..read more

I used to think this board was immaturely obsessed with DCP until I realized that DCP makes it so damn easy to be obsessed with. He provides his own material to be flogged with. Repeatedly. So, I get it now. I did have you in mind when I considered the question. Do say more. Statistics: Posted by jpatterson — Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:35 pm ..read more

He took it down. There’s a screenshot a few posts up. I guess we have our answer. He seems to have made a mistake and thought better of it. Good. Statistics: Posted by Kishkumen — Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:33 pm ..read more

I understand Rosebud’s role in this matter . . . . Do you? Sometimes I wonder. I mean, does it count for anything that the romantic interest between Dehlin and Rosebud started before she took at job at Open Stories? Are you going to argue that she was forced to take a job there while being perfectly cognizant of the mutual sexual interest between her and Dehlin? So it would seem that she walked right into that situation, one she could have easily avoided. Not only did she freely choose to take that risk, but she wanted the romantic and professional aspects of the relationship to continue aft ..read more