In this very special second season premiere, Natalie, Emily, and Jess are all together and interview the Rev. Adam Hamilton! That name will ring bells of recognition across the United Methodist connection, as Adam is the lead pastor of the Church of the Resurrection in Leawood, Kansas, which is the largest Methodist congregation in the United States. Adam is also the author of a host of books, and has served several times as a delegate to General Conference. Adam chats with us about how his belief in pretty girls brought him to a belief in Jesus, about his unconventional discovery of the UMC ..read more

Natalie and Jess reunite with the luminous Melissa Morral! CRCDS friends will remember Melissa as the first person they met on campus, as a steadfast presence amid the chaos of seminary life, and as a friend. Melissa chats with us about her upbringing among evangelicals, her exceptional calling, her time studying and working at CRCDS, and her ministry these days to the poor and to the refugee ..read more

Content warning: This episode contains discussions of childhood sexual abuse and cancer, as well as a few more F-bombs than we normally drop. Natalie chats with Jo Schonewolf, host of the podcast "What the Hell Is a Pastor?" Natalie and Jo talk about being a Christian in the '90s, the damage of purity culture, beating cancer, the new frontier of Christian podcasting, moving on after a toxic experience, and the complicated relationship pastors have with saying 4 letter words ..read more

Natalie and Emily connect with their favorite Facebook friend that they've never actually met in person, Pastor Jacki Pillot. She's a licensed local pastor serving in the Greater New Jersey Conference, her loving husband is a pastor too, and she has three beautiful daughters. Upper New York friends may know Jacki's mom, the Rev. Carolyn Stow. We chat work and home life balance, new ways of reaching children and families, what to do when a grumpster complains, and the importance of love ..read more

In this episode Jess and Natalie have an amazing conversation with the Rev. Sam Kinsman, Protestant Chaplain at the University of Rochester, and pastor of the flock that Natalie belonged to in college, the Protestant Chapel Community. We chat about coming out stories and the queerness of the Trinity, mental health struggles and honoring those we've lost, and the progressive future our young people are leading us into ..read more

We've got a good one this week! Natalie and Jess chat with the Rev. Michelle Bogue-Trost, senior pastor at Central UMC in Endicott, NY. We talk about life as a Dangerous Liberal Lady Preacher, culture shocks in the ministry, code-switching in the Church, and re-writing scripts ..read more

We have another very special one for you, friends! Straight outta Twitter and Substack, our friend Josh, better known as JRR Jokien. Josh is all at once an adorkable nerd, a lover of the _Lord of the Rings_ series, and active in his own ministry. In this episode Jess and Natalie have all kinds of fun geeking out with Josh and talking about what Tolkien teaches us about our faith and our world ..read more

Oh boy do we have a special show for you today! In this episode Natalie and Jess are joined by Dr. John Tyson, our old United Methodist Studies professor from our CRCDS days, and author of _Born in Crisis and Shaped by Controversy_. We had an amazing conversation about the past, present, and future of the UMC ..read more

Natalie and Jess interview our old mentor and beloved friend Ann Kemper, pastor at Covenant UMC in Rochester, NY, and member of the Upper New York Board of Ordained Ministry. First, we giggle about the "golden scissors" of editing a podcast, and then we talk theology with one of the greats ..read more

Natalie and Jess chat with Wesley Caldwell, our friend who works at Camp Casowasco. Wesley shares his life and journey as a trans Christian, and we talk about how we can truly support our GLBTQIA beloveds. Wesley also shares his passion for the camp ministries, and what a nurturing time at camp teaches you about God's love ..read more