EP434: 5 Surprises About Bundled Payments, With Benjamin Schwartz, MD, MBA
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by Stacey Richter
1d ago
For a full transcript of this episode, click here. I’ve been in a couple of meetings lately. In one case, a healthcare company came up with a strategy and deployed it; and the strategy didn’t go as planned. The other one, it did go as planned—it worked great. Of course, I’m coming in on the back end like a Monday morning quarterback here; but the plan that failed, I have to say, I wasn’t surprised. Had they asked me ahead of time, I would have told them to save their money because the plan was never gonna work, even though the strategy looked like kind of a straight line from here to there. No ..read more
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EP433: The Mystery of the Weekly Claims Wire: What Are Plan Sponsors Actually Paying For Each Week? With Justin Leader
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by Stacey Richter
1w ago
For a full transcript of this episode, click here. On the show today, I am going to use the term TPA (third-party administrator) and ASO (administrative services only) vendor kind of interchangeably here. But these are the entities that a plan sponsor—for example, a self-insured employer is a plan sponsor—but these plan sponsors will use to administer their plan. And one of the things that TPAs and ASOs administer is this so-called weekly claims wire. Every week, self-funded employers get a weekly claims run charge so they can pay expenses related to their plan in weekly increments. The claims ..read more
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Encore! EP391: A Case Study for Anyone Trying to Level Up Primary Care That I’m Gonna Call “How Margin Shoves Mission Off the Bus,” With Scott Conard, MD
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by Stacey Richter
2w ago
For a full transcript of this episode, click here. Here’s a great musing that I read on LinkedIn: How will alternative primary care models fare when growth mode gets balanced with profitability and VC-supported burn rate is transformed to Big Retail bottom-line expectations? Mission v. margin. I’m gonna add to this: How will alternative primary care models, or even just doing good primary care, fare when it encounters the current system rife with perverse incentives of all kinds, including, yeah, for sure, Big Retail bottom-line expectations but also Big Health System and Big Payer bottom-line ..read more
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EP432: The Knifepoint Intersection of Margin and Mission and the Peril of Cutting Clinical “Waste,” With Kate Wolin, ScD
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by Stacey Richter
1M ago
For a full transcript of this episode, click here. First of all, I just want to start out this pod and really thank everyone listening and for showing up for a show like this one. You do it and you are here because you care about patients/members. It’s just so easy to feel like we’ll never be able to do enough, and that’s a rough, rough feeling. Please take a moment to truly hear how grateful I am for you being here and for doing all that you do and that you try to do. I saw on the interwebs the other day a Marcus Aurelius quote. What he said was, “Be satisfied with even the smallest progress ..read more
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EP430: Advice for Digital Health Vendors Selling to Employers, With Barbara Wachsman
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by Stacey Richter
1M ago
For a full transcript of this episode, click here. We have been spending a bunch of time here on Relentless Health Value talking about PBMs (pharmacy benefit managers) lately and pharmacy benefits, but we are moving into a new topic area. It sort of kicked off three weeks ago with the pod with Rik Renard (EP427) on the importance of care flows if you are a digital health vendor trying to get consistent outcomes. But then I actually went back to the PBM/pharmacy benefits topic to talk with Luke Slindee, PharmD (EP429) and Julie Selesnick (EP428) because, you know, the J&J lawsuit. But now w ..read more
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EP429: Following the Dollar Through Pharmacy Acronyms Like WAC, AWP, and NADAC, With Luke Slindee, PharmD
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by Stacey Richter
1M ago
For a full transcript of this episode, click here. In this healthcare podcast we’re talking about pharmacy acronyms or terms like AWP and WAC, and, not really an acronym, but we’ll also talk pharmacy list prices, rebates, discounts. We also have NADAC, but that’s slightly off to the side for reasons we’ll get to in a sec. Most of these acronyms refer to a number with a dollar sign in front of it, and it’s hell on wheels to figure out if and/or to what extent that number reflects what is going on in the real world, especially if you are a patient or a plan sponsor and all you see is the list pr ..read more
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EP428: Do-It-Now Advice From the J&J and the DOL v BCBS Lawsuits, With Julie Selesnick
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by Stacey Richter
2M ago
For a full transcript of this episode, click here. This show is different, so if you’ve already listened to or read all about the gory details of the J&J and/or the DOL v BCBS lawsuits, this is not gonna be a repeat of that information. Julie Selesnick, my guest today, does cover the very, very top line about these two cases. But after that, we move on fast—because what I wanted to get to today was not the potential landslide of legal action that may or may not be confronting plan sponsors or payers or even brokers today. I did not want to really even talk about the CAA (Consolidated Appro ..read more
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Encore! EP379: How Much Money, Really, Are Employee Benefit Consultants and/or Brokers Making From Plan Sponsors? With AJ Loiacono
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by Stacey Richter
2M ago
For a full transcript of this episode, click here. Here on Relentless Health Value, we have done a bunch of shows lately on how some weird PBM (pharmacy benefit manager) and pharmacy goings-on impact plan members, patients, and also independent pharmacies. During the conversation with Benjamin Jolley, PharmD (EP422), for example, Benjamin mentioned that he thinks some of these contract terms that really hurt independent pharmacies are signed by employers at the urging of their brokers or employee benefit consultants (EBCs). Think about this. You have these huge vertically integrated PBMs who o ..read more
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EP426: Cost Containment Versus Value-based Drug Purchasing, With Nina Lathia, RPh, MSc, PhD
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by Stacey Richter
2M ago
For a full transcript of this episode, click here. Here’s something Randy Vogenberg, PhD, wrote the other day; and I made some light edits: Research has documented the unintended impacts of poor pharmacy benefit strategy. Examples include increasing costs of care, bankruptcies, and member satisfaction declines. And, yeah … agreed. Also, probably health problems if we’re talking about a member unable to access a drug they really need. I heard the other day about how so many patients who have had organ transplants have a hard time getting their transplant rejection meds. What?! I just can’t even ..read more
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EP425: Three Ways for “Regular” Clinical Practices to Take Cash When It’s Cheaper for a Patient Than Using Their Insurance, With Marshall Allen
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by Stacey Richter
3M ago
For a full transcript of this episode, click here. This show today is for physicians or other clinicians or providers who are still taking insurance—those who are going about their day being pretty normal ... but at the same time, they’re noticing one and/or two things potentially going on. Here’s thing one: They may be seeing patients struggling to afford care, especially patients with commercial insurance and huge deductibles. And/Or thing two: They may have patients actually coming in and asking to pay cash. It’s definitely becoming known in some circles that about half the time the cash pr ..read more
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