Neither theism nor atheism is the default stance in humans, for the simple reason that babies cannot entertain the abstract ideas involved in either stance. I was addressing the absurd claim that we are all born atheistic. In connection with that absurd idea, the post does work. Now that you've clarified your intended meaning. You forgot to offer enough context for me, and quite likely for others too. Your initial statement (top) seems to be opposing a "default stance" in humans, that begins at birth. Statistics: Posted by Pattern-chaser — Wed May 31, 2023 1:40 pm ..read more

I was addressing the absurd claim that we are all born atheistic. In connection with that absurd idea, the post does work. Statistics: Posted by rainchild — Tue May 30, 2023 5:22 pm ..read more

Neither theism nor atheism is the default stance in humans, for the simple reason that babies cannot entertain the abstract ideas involved in either stance. Sorry, but this post doesn't seem to work. You reject a "stance" in humans, because human babies can't entertain a "stance"? The grown-ups can, though... Statistics: Posted by Pattern-chaser — Tue May 30, 2023 11:28 am ..read more

Neither theism nor atheism is the default stance in humans, for the simple reason that babies cannot entertain the abstract ideas involved in either stance. Statistics: Posted by rainchild — Tue May 30, 2023 1:52 am ..read more

For a belief; skepticism is the default. We are all born atheistic until we are force fed the notion of god which children accept uncritically untilo they start to question their indoctrination. All babies see their parents (or caregivers) as Gods. THAT is the default. Gradually, we grow to see that no, they are not gods, but maybe other authorities (leaders/friends/mentors) are as gods. But inevitably, all imperfect people let us down so we come to realize no human being can be trusted as if they’re infallible gods. Then, ideally, we look higher - to higher values. That’s pretty much what ..read more

“Do you want to have an easy life? Then always stay with the herd and lose yourself in the herd.” - Friedrich Nietzsche Where is this from? Can this be taken that Nietzsche encourages you to stop thinking? If not, what has it got with thinking, and with God? Statistics: Posted by gad-fly — Mon May 29, 2023 9:02 pm ..read more

For a belief; skepticism is the default. We are all born atheistic until we are force fed the notion of god which children accept uncritically untilo they start to question their indoctrination. All babies see their parents (or caregivers) as Gods. THAT is the default. Gradually, we grow to see that no, they are not gods, but maybe other authorities (leaders/friends/mentors) are as gods. But inevitably, all imperfect people let us down so we come to realize no human being can be trusted as if they’re infallible gods. Then, ideally, we look higher - to higher values. That’s pretty much what ..read more

For a belief; skepticism is the default. We are all born atheistic until we are force fed the notion of god which children accept uncritically untilo they start to question their indoctrination. All babies see their parents (or caregivers) as Gods. THAT is the default. Gradually, we grow to see that no, they are not gods, but maybe other authorities (leaders/friends/mentors) are as gods. But inevitably, all imperfect people let us down so we come to realize no human being can be trusted as if they’re infallible gods. Then, ideally, we look higher - to higher values. That’s pretty much what G ..read more

Context matters: “God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves?” - Nietzsche Nietzsche seemed to suggest that the old way of seeing God is dead, and it’s not necessarily so good because the replacement for the void is worse (communist ideals that would involve mass murdering etc). We = herd mentalities that contribute to insanities like ..read more

Yes, Harry Potter and Sherlock Holmes exist as mental objects as do evaluations, hallucinations, and dreams. Obscure individuals including small birds, and ephemeral herbs may have an even greater influence on destiny than can be imagined. So, just confirming, do concepts like courtesy or arithmetic also exist in that way too? Yes, I think so. Courtesy, for instance, for me brings to my memory certain actual experiences I've had or that others have told me about and these memories are as concrete as the expressions on the courteous person's face. I suppose it's much the same for other ..read more