E207: Superheroes are the new machine guns (Journey Into Mystery #116) -- June 1965
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by Edward Nevraumont and Michael Kealy
10M ago
In this episode: Mike and Ed continue their discussions on what the original Avengers are doing in their post-Avengers lives. For instance, Thor now seems to be working for the American military in Vietnam. Was he drafted? Or did he consider deserting to move back to Asgard? Will super-powered individuals become the next weapon of war? Will heroes sell their services to the highest bidding country? Is there a way to stop the escalation, or is this just the new way of the world? Behind the issue: Stan had Thor appear in Vietnam, but never had him coordinating with the US military. Comic books i ..read more
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E206: When they tell you what they are, believe them (Amazing Spider-man #26) -- June 1965
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by Edward Nevraumont and Michael Kealy
10M ago
In This Episode Mike and Ed discuss how the Goblin and the Crime Master may be the same person. Also the Green Goblin is now clearly a villain. His early work attacking crime families seems to just have been so he can consolidate organized crime under his own leadership. Ed admits his earlier errors and Mike helps Ed understand that Goblins are, historically, not known for their altruism. What does it say about Mr Fantastic? Behind the Issue This is the first appearance of the Crime Master (he dies in the next issue, and unlike most dead villains is never resurrected - at least as of this writ ..read more
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E205: They Don't Make Villains Like They Used to (Daredevil #8) -- June 1965
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by Edward Nevraumont and Michael Kealy
11M ago
Thank you for staying with us as we missed another week last week. Edward is traveling with his family this summer making recording difficult. We still have a half dozen episodes recorded and we will trickle them out over the summer months, but there may be a few weeks this summer without an episode. But we have some fun ones coming! This one made me laugh while I was editing it… Enjoy! In This Episode Mike and Ed discuss DAredevil’s recent loss to the Stilt-Man. Does Daredevil even have any super powers? If not, is he just a crazy man who swings from building to building with a grapple hook ..read more
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E204: Recruiting for Strength (Avengers #17) -- June 1965
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by Edward Nevraumont and Michael Kealy
11M ago
In this episode: Mike and Ed discuss the Avengers’ public search for a fifth member: the Hulk. What are they thinking? Is strength the only requirement for membership? How bad is “rampaging” before you decide not to let someone on the team? Should someone take Captain America’s license away? Behind the issue: Stan Lee is leaning into the idea that the team is under-powered after losing the original Avengers. The team feels the same way until they discover that when they work together as a team they can defeat powerful villains — maybe they don’t need the Hulk after all? In this issue: The new ..read more
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E202: The Fantastic Three? Four?? Five??? (Fantastic Four #39 and #40) -- June/July 1965
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by Edward Nevraumont
1y ago
Apologizes for the delay on this episode. Edward has been traveling more than usual for business making it difficult to record. But we are back, and we should have a few more episodes recorded in time to be back on schedule next week. Stay tuned true believers! In this episode: Mike and Ed skip over the tornado that Dr. Doom used to terrorize the city, the capture of the Baxter Building, and the use of Reed Richards’ technology against himself, and jump right to the shocking news that the Thing, Ben Grimm, is leaving the Fantastic Four! Why is he leaving? Is it too hard to keep egos like this ..read more
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E201: Lobotomy or Death! (Tales to Astonish #67) -- May 1965
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by Edward Nevraumont
1y ago
In this episode: Mike and Ed discuss the shocking loss of scientific skill among the country’s top scientists. It clearly seems purposeful, but what is the purpose? Aliens trying to keep humanity from developing new technologies? A domestic test to take away targeted abilities from exceptional people? Will they be able to take away superpowers next? And if so, is it ethical? If we can’t keep someone in prison, is the choice really between lobotomizing their abilities or capital punishment? What is the ethical choice? Ed and Mike disagree! Behind the issue: The after-effects of this issue resul ..read more
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E200: Avengers in Name Only? (Avengers #16, Part 2) -- May 1965
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by Edward Nevraumont and Michael Kealy
1y ago
In This Episode Mike and Ed continue to dive into the shocking changes to the Avengers line-up. It has now been announced that in addition to Hawkeye, Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch will be joining the team, and all of the founding members will be leaving. Is it still the Avengers is none of the founding members are on the team? Are we concerned that 75% of the team is made up of former villains. Are they really FORMER? And even if morality was not an issue, can we expect these new members to replace the missing firepower of Iron Man, Thor, Giant Man and the Wasp? Behind the Issue There was ..read more
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E199 - The newest Avengers are... a trio of supervillains? How does this make any sense?!? (Avengers #16 Part 1) --
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by Edward Nevraumont and Michael Kealy
1y ago
Next week is our 200th episode! It was fortunate timing that it ended up landing right on our episodes about Avengers #16, which was one of the most important issues of the era. If you are enjoying What If Marvel was Real?, now would be a great time to spread the word! Thanks for your help in getting our little show out there, and for all the listeners who have been here from the beginning. In this episode: Mike and Ed discuss the surprise announcement that Hawkeye, the supervillain, will be joining the Avengers as a new member. The Federal Security Agency has given Hawkeye a thumbs up, but ho ..read more
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E196: Conspiracy Theories (Tales of Suspense #65) -- May 1965
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by Edward Nevraumont and Michael Kealy
1y ago
In this episode: Mike and Ed discuss the Iron Man vs Iron Man battle. The man in the newest suit was unmasked and revealed to be Weasel Wills, a lifetime criminal with an unfortunate name. But was Weasel the one committing the crimes? Or was he a scape goat? How did Weasel steal the suit to begin with? How did he maintain the suit? How was he defeated with an old, obsolete suit? Is there a deeper conspiracy we are not aware of? It was terribly convenient (inconvenient?) that all of the Avengers were missing during the crime spree. Mike and Ed get to the bottom of these important questions! Beh ..read more
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Episode 195: Advice to would-be heroes - maybe sit this super-brawl out! (Journey Into Mystery #116) -- May 1965
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by Michael Kealy and Edward Nevraumont
1y ago
In this episode: Mike and Ed discuss when it is appropriate for a regular human to get involved in super-conflict. If you can’t help, you don’t need to show off - just run away and call 911! Also: Are all Asgardians super? If they are, why wouldn’t all of them come to Earth where they could be super powerful? Or is that just beneath their dignity? Behind the issue: This is the point where Stan has decided to take Thor “off the table”. He is going to leave the Avengers, and more of his stories will involve stuff happening in Asgard and the politics of the gods, rather than fighting villains of ..read more
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