Beth Z and Beth J just participated in a cacao ceremony moments before this conversation. They take a neighborhood walk to unpack their experience together. They both felt strong emotions bubbling up during the ceremony, and those emotions were coupled with the physiological impacts of the cacao and the breathwork that the facilitator guided them through. They explore the mental images that arose for them and the deep realizations they experienced -- for Beth J, it was an awakening to beauty and wonder in the natural world and for Beth Z, it was an awakening to her own power and individuality ..read more

Join Beth J and Beth Z this week for a hike in the woods north of Pittsburgh, PA! This morning, Beth J read something on instagram and it got her thinking. She read a post about a "life mission," and she questions whether that is a meaningful concept for her. Instead, she asks, how can we value our life experience over our life mission? Beth Z shares some of the wisdom she has gleaned from Robin Wall Kimmerer's book Braiding Sweetgrass and explores the lessons we can learn from the natural world -- specifically, plants. She asks what nature teaches us about gratitude, and how we can all adopt ..read more

Beth Z can think of no better setting to discuss Robin Wall Kimmerer's "Braiding Sweetgrass" than on an 18-mile hike through a forest in Pennsylvania. She shares her curiosity about the language we use to refer to nature; specifically, what if we begin to refer to plants and animals as "somones" instead of "somethings?" The Beths explore how this language adjustment might change their relationship with nature, inspiring a deeper sense of wonder and respect for our environments. Could this be the start of redefining our surroundings, transforming our relationship with our environments and wakin ..read more

The Beths discuss a current buzzword: "wellness." Beth J shares about her recent chronic illness diagnosis, recounting the ways her body has demanded that she pay attention to her new and changing needs. Over the past year, she found herself in pain she had never before experienced, requiring hospitalization for the first time in her life, and ultimately receiving a diagnosis of Crohn's Disease. Through this journey, Beth J learned to honor her body's limitations and to more deeply treasure the strength and physical abilities that she does have in the present moment. Beth Z shares about her ex ..read more

Beth Z has a lot to share with Beth J about her recent journey in the wilderness. Beth Z spent three days fasting alone in the woods, spending her time with trees, spiders and plants, and the forest taught her precious truths about herself and her place in her world. Beth J shares some observations she's made about her own emotions, and together they explore what it means to be emotionally honest. They ask each other how they can go about about sitting with what is, allowing the present moment to unfold, and taking part in the natural ebbs and flows of their emotional lives. The Beths explore ..read more

Welcome to Walking in the Wilderness, a series of conversations between two friends and creatives as they explore nature, spirituality and science. In this episode, Bethany Zabiegalski and Elizabeth Jeffries (Beth Z & Beth J) introduce the theme of this podcast: exploration and experimentation. The two Beths invite you to listen in and to share in their journey as they share their own journeys with each other.  Music by DiLisio: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0i4edphpvkUBeal0xPfTtk --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/walking-in-the-wilderness/message ..read more

Season 2 Finale! We're talking about clearing out what is no longer serving us, and transforming into new ways of being - in friendships and professional development. Learn more about Bethany Zabiegalski's work as an adventurous living guide (life coach) at The Heart Wants Adventure. Learn more about Elizabeth Jeffries' work including her book Through the Kaleidoscope, the story of her departure from fundamentalist evangelical Christianity and her wholehearted embrace of her sense of natural wonder. Theme music by DiLisio. Recording Date: May 31, 2021 --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor ..read more

In this episode, Beth Z's partner, Anthony, takes over WIW and interviews Beth J on her 2019 book, Through the Kaleidoscope. You can purchase Beth J's book here: http://www.elizabethjeffrieswrites.com/kaleidoscope-book Check out Beth Z's coaching website theheartwantsadventure.com Theme song by Dilisio: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0i4edphpvkUBeal0xPfTtk --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/walking-in-the-wilderness/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/walking-in-the-wild ..read more

Recording Date: April 10, 2021 Location: ElizaBETH on Shawandasse Tula/Shawnee land (now Brighton Heights, PA) & BETHany on Kumeyaay land (now Mission Point Park, San Diego, CA) --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/walking-in-the-wilderness/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/walking-in-the-wilderness/support ..read more

Beth J and Beth Z share about their personal experiences with religious deconstruction, specifically leaving the modern American Christian church of their upbringing. Beth J has found herself in a new phase in which her religious deconstruction is no longer occupying much space in her brain. It's a welcome new freedom, and has given her the opportunity to discover and enjoy new interests and pursuits. Together, the Beths explore what this means, including what moral standards they use now, how they grapple with the pain and regret that come from having invested so much time in an endeavor they ..read more