Tim Keller founded Redeemer Presbyterian Church in NYC in 1989. Over the course of his quarter century as its pastor the church and Keller - unapologetically classical in its theology - rose to a place of influence in the midst of Manhattan. Dave reflects on his engagement with Keller and why he was so influential. In the second half the tables are turned from an learner episode where Mike quizzed Dave on Billy Joel's original "We Didn't Start the Fire" and now it is Mike being quizzed on Fall Out Boy's updated version. Warning, the song is terrible and this part of the show is far too long ..read more

Augustine? Anselm? Aquinas? Aquaman? Who is the GOAT? Who is in the top five theologians of all-time according to this highly objective and scientific ranking process? Also, the real story behind the lost live podcast is finally told ..read more

Ok, stuff sure looks like it was designed, but is it really? Richard Dawkins or Sir William Paley? Goldilocks universe or a simulation? Who knows? We do! Plus we share some of our favorite "tunes" that are just so fine ..read more

The year was 2008 (or 2009?) Pastor Dave turned in a paper defending the compatibility of Christianity with the death penalty in certain limited circumstances contra his professor the esteemed Christian ethicist Nancy Duff. Dave explains why he was right and then he and Mike sharpen Dave's knives that were even duller than his arguments ..read more

Who knows Mike better: Amazon or his step-mother? The answer isn't so simple and how does the vast amount of information we produce compare to the kind of knowledge that God has of us? And finally, what can a chat with an AI bot tell us about the meaning of life ..read more

Beloved astrophysicist and Twitter gadfly Neil Degrasse Tyson said that "the good thing about science is that it is true whether you believe it or not." This didn't sit well with America's sassiest meat product who clapped back "log off bro." The guys share their reflections on who got the better in what turned out to be a clash of intellectual titans. In the end Mike shares a great tip for trying out a new restaurant without breaking the bank (spoiler alert: it's not dine and dash ..read more

"Who Killed Mars Hill?" — is the provocative title of Christianity Today's hugely successful podcast entitled The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill. Spoiler alert, we all did! Seriously, CT's audio autopsy of one Seattle megachurch brings together so much what has animated a certain flavor of American Protestantism over the last few decades. It occasioned some thoughts from Pastor Dave and Mike had literally never heard anything about this church and its controversial pastor. At the end they share a couple podcast recommendations ..read more

The year was 2006 when Pastor Dave first encountered the Enneagram of Personality. Over the years he’s seen it increase in prominence and he’s heard various origin stories, tracing it all the way back to the Desert Fathers of the early church. The guys assess these claims and its value. For a helpful article read this article entitled “Can We Do Better Than the Enneagram?” from Christianity Today ..read more

We didn't choose to be born, nor from the Christian perspective did we choose to be born in sin. Yet, we are told that we need a Savior to deliver us and to place our trust in him. How is this fair? How does this make sense? Is an Aldi breakfast cookie a cracker? Listen to hear these answers and more ..read more

We all know her (or do we?). We all hate her (but should we?). Pastor Dave wants to talk about Karen. When does a joke about a certain "type" of person become a blanket cover for a certain kind of misogyny? Should that bother us? Should Dave eat whatever it is Mike is going to feed him? Find out on this episode of Like Trees Walking. (Also, was Kate from John & Kate Plus 8 the ür-Karen - even though she is a Kate ..read more