The Indigo Podcast
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The Indigo Podcast explores how humans can flourish in the world of work. Our data is evidence based and our conversation is quirky. In every episode, we're seeking to do some combination of the following: Promote the flourishing of people & organizations, bridge the gap between social science & management practice, provide an antidote or counterpoint to the ever-increasing overly..
The Indigo Podcast
1M ago
Do you feel compelled to work? Is your work difficult to stop thinking about? Are you upset if you have to miss a day of work? Do you tend to work beyond the actual requirements of your job? If so, you might be a workaholic–and so are almost half of U.S workers. Our guest today is Malissa Clark, author of Never Not Working: Why the Always-On Culture is Bad for Business–and How to Fix it. Malissa is an associate professor of industrial and organizational psychology at the University of Georgia, where she has been on faculty since 2013, and she joined us for a deep conversation all about workaho ..read more
The Indigo Podcast
1M ago
Love them or hate them, meetings are everywhere. But we really do need good meetings for teams and organizations to work. Steven Rogelberg is the world’s top evidence-based expert on meetings. He’s the author of the 2019 hit book The Surprising Science of Meetings and more recently, he wrote and published a new book, Glad We Met: The Art and Science of 1:1 Meetings. It’s a fascinating and useful look at how we can truly use intentional, thoughtful one-on-one meetings to create stronger relationships, better workplaces, and maybe even a better world. Tune in for this wonderful, jam-packed conve ..read more
The Indigo Podcast
5M ago
Suzanne Lucas is the "Evil HR Lady." After a decade in corporate HR, she embarked on a new mission to enhance the world of work for all. She coaches and trains HR departments, speaks around the world, and is the mastermind behind the Evil HR Lady group on Facebook, which has become a community of more than 31,000 HR professionals. In this episode, we talked about the state of HR, the dangers of the idea and practice of “bringing your whole self to work,” and the value of improv comedy for developing leadership skills. Stay tuned to hear Chris and I try a bit of improv in this thought-provoking ..read more
The Indigo Podcast
9M ago
What does it really take to be an effective senior leader? Beyond just getting promoted, what is it about people at higher levels that helps them genuinely succeed in those roles? In this episode, we explore:
What skills people need to lead at different levels
Paths toward gaining those skills, for both high-potential professionals and people currently in leadership roles
Implications for people who want to lead at high levels, for those leaders themselves, and for organizations
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All episodes plus MUCH more: Elevating What Works on Substack
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The Indigo Podcast
10M ago
Sam Paustian-Underdahl is the Mary Tilley Bessemer Associate Professor of Business Administration in the Department of Management at Florida State University's College of Business, and we were honored to have her join us for a fantastic conversation about women, work, and why this topic matters. Sam’s research, which we discuss along with other related topics, focuses on gender and diversity in organizations, the work-family interface, and leadership, in the context of work and organizations. We explored the idea of the playing field of the workplace, how gender fits into it, and implications ..read more
The Indigo Podcast
10M ago
Who are YOU, really? In this episode, Ben and Chris explore how "real" you should be at work and in other social circles, including:
The benefits and potential pitfall of authenticity
How authenticity plays out in groups and organizations
Implications for all of us, for leaders, and for organizations
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Lehman, D. W., O’Connor, K., Kovács, B., & Newman, G. E. (2019). Authenticity. Academy of Management Annals, 13(1), 1-42. https://journals.aom.org/doi/abs/10.5465/annals.2017.0047
Why Brutal Honesty is Often a Brutal Mistake: https://www.ele ..read more
The Indigo Podcast
1y ago
It's common to hear people describe their work organizations as a "family." And that description is often made as a proud statement, as if to imply that an organization should operate or feel like a family. But that's problematic, as we discuss in this episode. Specifically, we explore:
Why our use of metaphors for organization matters
How the way in which we talk about things can create or reinforce cultural norms
Why “family” is a problematic way to think about your work organization
Implications for people, leaders, and organizations
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The Indigo Podcast
1y ago
Shonna Waters and Brodie Riordan recently wrote a book all about coaching called The Coaching Shift, and in it, they explain and describe coaching from an evidence-based perspective. Both Shonna and Brodie are industrial and organizational psychologists, and they teach coaching together at Georgetown University. Shonna is also an executive at BetterUp, where she works to scale human transformation, and Brodie manages her own coaching and consulting practice, Ocular, while executive coaching with The Boda Group. They joined us for a wonderful conversation about The Coaching Shift, in which we t ..read more
The Indigo Podcast
1y ago
Whether it’s coping with unqualified people being promoted, working hard only to be rewarded with more hard work, supervisors getting away with being rude, or something else–we’ve all been there. Unfairness is common in life and at work, and our perceptions of fairness really matter. In this episode, we discuss:
Different types of “justice” or fairness in organizations
Outcomes of fair and unfair treatment
Implications for people, leaders, and organizations.
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Sherf, E. N., Venkataramani, V., & Gajendran, R. S. (2019). Too busy to be fair? The effect ..read more
The Indigo Podcast
1y ago
The marvel cinematic universe, or MCU, comprises 29 films that together have pulled in $27.432 billion in total revenue. And industrial and organizational psychologists Gordon Schmidt and Sy Islam argue that there’s plenty that we might learn from these films. In fact, they go deep into this topic in their book, Leaders Assemble: Leadership in the MCU. Tune into this great conversation about how we might learn about leadership from popular culture, and more specifically, from superheroes.
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Leaders Assemble! Leadership in the MCU (Amazon)
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